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tinabanana
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Post how to deal with vulcanized seats
on: August 7, 2012, 16:28
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I think its the right term, when OEM seats material are glued to the seat foam.

How do you guys deal with this? Is it possible to separate the material without making alot of damage to the foam?

Is this something that is done in most modern seats?
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Post Re: how to deal with vulcanized seats
on: August 7, 2012, 21:25
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Vulcanizing is the process of converting rubber into a more durable form (i.e. making tires). I'm not quite sure that qualifies in this case. Only thing you can really do is peel it off carefully. Sometimes it helps to steam the cover first to soften the glue up. On occasion, I've use a razor to cut the covers off slowly one half inch at a time.

I don't see it that much with modern seats although it is still used. BMW Minis use it with their covers.
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Post Re: how to deal with vulcanized seats
on: August 7, 2012, 22:10
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Peugeot Citroen ect got them , complete foamed-covers are expensief at dealers
especially in alcantara around €900 excl 21%tax

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Post Re: how to deal with vulcanized seats
on: August 7, 2012, 23:56
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Use a heat gun to release the glue. You will have to peel the cover back as you apply heat to the bottom side of the cover. It's a pain in the butt and it takes time but, it usually works pretty good. Just did a Mini not too long ago and have done some '90s Chevy trucks and mustangs. Just take your time and be careful not to burn the foam or your hands(maybe use pliers). Slow and steady.
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Post Re: how to deal with vulcanized seats
on: August 8, 2012, 00:14
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What kind of seat are you working on Tina?
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Post Re: how to deal with vulcanized seats
on: August 8, 2012, 00:38
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Some Scions have it, mid 90s Mustangs did, quite a few Chrysler/Dodge products do, Chevy did it, BMW Z3s have it in some years, and I'm sure there are others. I like using the steamer to release it. Works well other than on leather.

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Post Re: how to deal with vulcanized seats
on: August 8, 2012, 00:55
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The original term given was moulded seats. There were several articles about them in the now defunct Auto Trim & Restyling magazine. My question is why do you want to remove it? We have done many covers even for the dealers in which we cut the side boxing off at the main seam and installed the new coverrs, usualy leather over the exsisting fabric.
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Post Re: how to deal with vulcanized seats
on: August 8, 2012, 01:50
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You can spray rubbing alcohol on it and it will peel right off! Just let it sit for 5-10 min and do small sections at a time.
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Post Re: how to deal with vulcanized seats
on: August 8, 2012, 02:42
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thx for all the great tips guys. i had thought about going over it but for some reason it just didnt seem like the right way of doing it but thinking about it i guess it doesnt really matter.

had not thought of the heat gun, that sounds like a good idea, as does the rubbing alcohol.

i dont have any current projects with this issue but i had thought about picking up some cheap sunfire/cavalier seats to work on and had kinda given up since they done that way from the factory. they are a common swap for s-10/sonomas and we have alot of friends with nice mini trucks, it seemed like a good practice project.
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Post Re: how to deal with vulcanized seats
on: August 8, 2012, 03:34
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If you are not building the seat covers yourself, then you can just install over it. Cut off the boxing and then cut a channel on all the seamlines then spray glue on the back of the cover and into all the channels. It creates a similar to factory finish.

If you are patterning and building the seat covers yourself, then you can try and remove the covers, but many times you end up destroying the foam in the process. So if the channels are not very deep then you can probably pattern the majority of the interior while it is still attached to the seat.
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Post Re: how to deal with vulcanized seats
on: August 8, 2012, 05:03
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Quote from Mcautotrim on August 8, 2012, 00:55
My question is why do you want to remove it? We have done many covers even for the dealers in which we cut the side boxing off at the main seam and installed the new coverrs, usualy leather over the exsisting fabric.

I agree, there's no harm in cutting the skirt off and upholstering over the glued cloth.
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Post Re: how to deal with vulcanized seats
on: August 8, 2012, 17:44
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We call them foam injected.

as said straight over the top removing any material that isn't glued down.

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Post Re: how to deal with vulcanized seats
on: August 8, 2012, 23:52
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I'm putting new leather on the seats of a 96 Mustang now. Unfortunately, the factory glued the seams on the foam instead of using velcro or hogrings.

I know in some cases liquid listing works well but if you ever have to redo the seats, it's a real pain in the ass getting the old covers off. What should have been an easy job will take twice as long because Ford chose liquid listing over hogrings.
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Post Re: how to deal with vulcanized seats
on: August 9, 2012, 01:10
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I'm getting ready to redo a 90's Chevy Truck bench and I'm going to be adding foam to recontour it. I'm guessing I need to get all the cloth off. May have to invest in a steamer. =P

-Robert
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Post Re: how to deal with vulcanized seats
on: August 9, 2012, 04:27
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Bobby please fill out your profile. Thanks

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